Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #178 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 22 Aug 97 Volume 15 : Issue 178 Today's Topics: Ethernet Card problems Formatting software? H2 make invisible files visible Info-Mac Digest V15 #169 Looking for presentation software Mac LC II, which version of MacOS ? (R) Mac OS 8 users Making invisible files visible My PowerBook won't move!!! OS 8 install os 8 problem OS8 and NDD Performa 6400 modem upgrade? Popup Folder! PopupFolder alternative for System 8 PopUpFolder and OS8 PPP Client/Dialer question... RasterOps Video board Driver Patch Small icons with OS 8..... Win. cursors, icons --> Mac? The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, Matt Bauer, Liam Breck The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. 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If I try to select that for the AppleTalk connection, I get a "could not switch due to an error" message. In addition, none of the transceiver lights are on. Are there any jumpers/switches on the ethernet card that need to be set? I have no docs for it. Should MacTCP see it or is there another extension/control panel required first? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 97 13:31:20 -0400 From: "Gino J. Piazza" Subject: Formatting software? Thursday, August 21, 1997 Dear Blair, Hi, I have on order a Micropolis 9.1 gigabyte AV hard drive for my Quadra 800. Now for my question. On a drive that big do you think it is better to use Apple's formatting software or is it better to use somethiing like Hard Disk Toolkit? Regards, Gino J. Piazza ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:20:24 -0400 From: "W. R. Wing" Subject: H2 make invisible files visible IMHO one of the slickest utilities for doing this sort of file manipulation is File Typer. The last version I saw was 5.2, but it may well be beyond that by now - available at finer archives everywhere. It allows complete (but SAFE) manipulation of file type/file creator information. And, as an added feature will set or clear all the "mode" bits including visable. Very nice user interface, and a make-this-file-like-that-one feature that makes it pretty safe to use. Well worth the share ware fee. Bill William R. Wing wrw@ornl.gov 423-574-8839 Network Architect for the Oak Ridge National Lab ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:59:05 -0600 From: "Scott A. Gorman" Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #169 > I need some help with my new computer. I just recently got a PowerMac > 7100/80--I know, a little outdated, but hey, I got it for free from a > friend who works at Computer Renaissance. I am trying to get all of > the information from my old LC III (also a gift from this friend) > using Local Talk cables and having NO success! I have ALL the right > things turned on--Sharing Setup (file sharing is on), Users & Groups, > File Sharing Monitor, Sharing... (under FILE menu), Apple Talk is on, > etc... Is it a problem with the computers not being compatible? Am I > missing something? Any help would be appreciated! Scott A.Gorman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:54:59 -0700 From: "Paul [not \"Brian\"] Brians" Subject: Looking for presentation software I am looking for recommendations for classroom presentation software. It must have the following characteristics: 1. Be reasonably easy to use. 2. Run on a Macintosh. 3. Be capable of displaying fine art in millions of colors. 4. Be fast (faster than say Netscape, which I have used in classs to show images). 5. Allow random access: that is not just display canned presentations, but allow me to go back five images, ahead two, select arbitrarily any image I want without having to click through the intervening ones. 6. Allow a mixture of still images, animations, video clips, sound files, etc., with the first two being the most important. I can live without video and sound. 7. Allow me to bring up a screen on which I can type words on the fly, during the presentation. Our home-grown HyperCard application called ProPS does all of this, but too slowly and cumbersomely. What's out there--commercial or otherwise--that can do the same? Most reviews I have seen assume that a presentation will be stepped through in a predetermined way. I really want to avoid that model. It would be n Paul Brians, Department of English,Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-5020 brians@wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:53:53 +0200 From: cbuser@access.ch (Christian F Buser) Subject: Mac LC II, which version of MacOS ? (R) Peter Van Avermaet wrote: > I have an LC II at home, which by current standards is an old machine, of > ... > My question to this forum is: What would be a suitable, recent version of > the Mac OS for this machine? (It currently has 7.0.1 . I have been told > that it cannot run anything higher than 7.5.* - is that correct?=20 According to the Mac Database from Apple (Nov 96 or so) the LC is only an 68020 processor, not an 68030 as you wrote. The highest version for the LC is 7.5.5. However, this was before 7.6.x appeared, so it MIGHT (or MIGHT NOT) work...=20 I once tried to install 7.5.x on a Mac IIsi (68030 processor), and it was really painfully slow. With 7.1, the machine behaved much better, and I think this applies to all "low-end" Macs.=20 > It is our family computer, used for word-processing (using RagTime, not > Word), games and kid's drawing (KidPix, HyperCard). We could make it our > family Internet computer - buying an external modem and some additional > RAM. (In which case, which version of MacTCP, OT, MacPPP, FreePPP, ...?) You=B4ll be limited to older versions of Netscape or Internet Explorer, I think, since the recent versions require a 68030 processor. E-Mail would run perfectly (even runs on a MacPortable 68000 with about 7 MHz speed!) with an LC and an external modem.=20 Good luck, Christian. --=20 Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86 Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland) =20 Look at ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:44:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Fiske Subject: Mac OS 8 users Could someone do a "Get Info" on the OS 8 Finder, click on it's icon, copy it, paste it on an empty folder, place the folder with the new icon inside another new folder, stuffit, hqx-it and e-mail it to: mfiske@mail.bright.net I'm putting together a freeware "Fake-8" pkg. for all the disillusioned '030 users (myself included) I will happily provide the contributor with .snd files from either the UnCDs or the Japanese release of Marching To Mars. Please e-mail me at this address first to confirm. thanks a bunch, Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:05:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Chaz Larson Subject: Making invisible files visible At 11:07 PM +0200 8/19/97, Thomas Rohde wrote: >Chaz Larson wrote: >> You use something like ResEdit, FIleBuddy, or Snitch; something that >well, I, too use Snitch, but it won't work on invisible files... even >when used on invisibles found with Find File. Sure it will. With Snitch installed, get info on any random file or disk. Now, from Snitch's own menu in that Get Info dialog, select "Get Info..." You get a standard file open dialog; use it to go find your invisible file and click the "Get Info" button. Now you've got the standard Get Info dialog, with Snitch's enhancements, for your invisible file. You can toggle the invisible bit from there. chazl - 8.21.1997 - chaz@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 07:02:31 +0900 (JST) From: Takuya Harada Subject: My PowerBook won't move!!! At 6:08 PM +0000 97.8.15, c.shayer2 wrote: > Can anyone help??? My PowerBook 5300/100(603e) is running at the > speed of a 25Mhz LCIII(68030), can anyone think of a reason why? It is because of the processor recycling. Open control panel "Powerbook", and push option when you select custom mode. Then, you can choose whether to use the processor recycling or not. ------------------------------- Address :t_harada@yk.rim.or.jp Real Name:Takuya Harada Yokohama, Japan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:14:38 -0400 From: "Norman R. Friedman" Subject: OS 8 install Just got a CD OS 8 and would like to up from 7.5, but basically I am faint of heart anytime I do an upgrade. I wonder if anyone can tell me in PLAIN ENGLISH - the safest and easiest way to do the upgrade. I have a Performa (P PC) 603e with RAM Doubler making 120,000. I am always worried about preferences, extensions, etc. I back up HD with "Zip" Any help will be appreciated and may I say "Thanks to all" norm@helix.nih.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:20:44 -0500 From: "Lee" Subject: os 8 problem Lee wrote: > my son has problem with OS8 corrupting btree of his drive volumes. Each time he boots additional volumes disappear from the desktop. this happens on completely different machines. An apple mac at work with a 23 giga-byte drive plus other drives. His home machine is PCcomputing tower with several 2 gig drives [on this machine he did a clean install], on this machine all the drives have disappeared; and this machine only had os8 and photoshop 4.x installed nothing else. He called apple and not even clue. Booting from a os7 cd-rom and using norton fixes the problem for os7, but os8 corrupts the drives again. what is happening? I don't have access to usenet. -- <<>> (:>) (:>) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 06:13:15 +1000 From: Pat Shaw Subject: OS8 and NDD I recently installed OS8 and Norton 3.5.1 (In get info it says 3.5.1) on my 7200/90. Now, every time I run Disk Doctor, either starting up from Norton CDRom, or a floppy, or from the HD I get the msg "Bad modification date" for the desktop. Whether I choose to fix, or not to fix, when I restart, the desktop automatically rebuilds. I then use NDD-"bad modification date"!!-desktop auto rebuilds on startup. How do I stop this? I never had a problem with Norton 3.2 and OS7.5.5. Thanks pat Pat Shaw pshaw@mania.com.au Visit Pat's Cats at http://www.mania.com.au/~pshaw/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:35:51 +0100 From: Dave Friedman Subject: Performa 6400 modem upgrade? >Does any one know the upgrade path for the Performa 6400/200 >It came with a GV 28.8 internal card. I heard that a software upgrade >can make it a 33.3 but I can't find any info. > >Also if anyone has any good Fax Software ideas that work well >on the 6400. The Performa 6400 comes with either a Global Village or a Geoport modem. To find out which you have, read Apple's tech notes at: If you have a Geoport, all upgrades are via software. You can find out more about the Geoport at: http://www-students.unisg.ch/~rschwegl/geoport.html -Dave Friedman dave@fun2play.com Vandelay Games The Word Gamer's Paradise! http://fun2play.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 03:10:21 -0400 From: Allan Hunter Subject: Popup Folder! The following was posted to the PopupFolder representative at ADSoft, massumma@adsoft.com I just got around to upgrading my operating system to MacOS 8 and found that PopupFolder doesn't work. ACK!!!!! I then did a "find" on AltaVista for every mention of PopupFolder and MacOS 8 and it seems to be common knowledge that 8 breaks PopupFolder. PLEASE PLEASE! Upgrade PopupFolder! It's the nicest thing aside from QuicKeys, maybe the nicest thing ever! I might have to back to system 7 just to have PopupFolder! I promise you, you can make money with this control panel, although you could use with better advertising than you've had so far. Please add me to any mailing list you intent to create regarding the future of PopupFolder. I hate spam and really really seldom invite anyone to add me to a mailing list (and please don't circulate my email address to any third parties!) but PopupFolder is special. Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:05:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Chaz Larson Subject: PopupFolder alternative for System 8 At 10:29 PM +0200 8/19/97, Thomas Rohde wrote: >I'd like to know whether MacOS 8 allows Small Icons view on the desktop. Sure does. You can view the icons on your desktop as buttons, too, if you like. chazl - 8.21.1997 - chaz@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:33:19 -0600 From: Graeme Forbes Subject: PopUpFolder and OS8 It sems there's hope after all. I got the following message from Highwire this morning: >As you know, many changes have occured with the release of the Mac OS 8 and >for the time being, we are not able to offer you a compatible version of >PopupFolder. We hope to satisfy your request in the near future. We are >aware that PopupFolder has become an essential utility for your computer >and we are doing everything we can to solve this incompatibility. Graeme Forbes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:49:54 EDT From: "Bilal A. Bhutta" Subject: PPP Client/Dialer question... Hello, I recently setup internet access on my parent's Mac (in Pakistan) but unfortunately the ISP has a wierd way of providing access, namely multiple (52 to be exact) single-lines phones numbers instead of multi-line single phone number as done by most ISPs here in US. I used FreePPP v2.5 for the setup, and dialing up requires that the user try each of the 52 numbers sequentially to see which one is available. Needless to say, its not only inconvenient, but also a great waste of time since manual selection of numbers thru FreePPP can be time consuming. And on top of that, its confusing for newbies. As for asking the ISP for help, their answer was: "What's a Mac?" :^( Is there a PPP client/dialer/whatever that can dial thru a given list of numbers until it gets a connection? Either a commerical or shareware product is fine. If one doesn't exist, is there an easily implementable work-around or solution? I would greatly any help/hint in this regards. Thanks in advance. Regards, Bilal A. Bhutta --- pheonix@athena.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 97 10:36:25 +0200 From: "Ad Herweijer" Subject: RasterOps Video board Driver Patch Hi all, We need a driver patch for an old RasterOps Video Board Model 108 Plus (Nubus) living in a Mac IIfx. The driver patch is required for the board to work with MacOS 7.5 and up. The RasterOps website refers to a "RO Driver Patch Disk v1.01", it fails to indicate where and how to get it, however. The website (www.rasterops.com) has an international support phone number, but that didn't bring me any further than a long chain of (non-)answering machines. Does anybody out there have the gadget disk or file or know an ftp-site from where it can be downloaded. Any help would be greatly appreciated! ir. Ad Herweijer, Delft University of Technology, Faculty of Applied Physics, Pattern Recognition Group, Lorentzweg 1, 2628 CJ Delft, The Netherlands, Phone: +31 15 278 2408, Fax: +31 15 278 6740, E-Mail: ad@ph.tn.tudelft.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 97 13:29:57 -0800 From: "B.J. Major" Subject: Small icons with OS 8..... In reply to: >Hi folks, > >I'd like to know whether MacOS 8 allows Small Icons view on the desktop. >Currently I'm very glad that PopupFolder gives me the option to do this. > >I'd be assed with my 220+ icons if I were restricted to Large Icons. > >Anybody with 8 tell me? > >TIA > >Tom >-- >TOM ROHDE MEDIA DESIGN BONOBO.COMmunication Yes, Tom, small icons are allowed according to the "view options" contextual menu on the Finder Desktop that I just looked at. In fact, there are not three sizes anymore--it's only very small & large--nothing inbetween. --bj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:26:59 -0500 From: Rafael Subject: Win. cursors, icons --> Mac? A long time ago I remember using an app. that translated Win. to Mac icons. What was the name of this utility and where can I find it now? A search revealed nothing. Also, is it possible to translate Win. cursors to a format my Mac can understand? (maybe a picture file?) Thank you all, Rafael "Being a Mac user is like being a Navy SEAL: a small, elite group of people with access to the most sophisticated technology in the world, who everyone calls on to get the really tough jobs done quickly and efficiently." -- Nick Lehmann -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************