Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #165 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 08 Aug 97 Volume 15 : Issue 165 Today's Topics: [*] Cache Killer Pro 1.02 - the original Cache Killer and more!!! [*] JPEGger 1.1 [*] MadBreaker 1.1 [*] TattleTech 2.55 Printer problems Re: mailing list software (Q) Applevision 1710 & 5300cs problems (Q)danish characters 2 [Q] Open transport & FreePPP [Q]: Eudora Light 3.11 filters: how to transfer files to Trash? CD-ROM comment Re: submissions (K schemes) Control Strip and Pop up windows GIFs and JPEGs not visible in Netscape Info-Mac Digest V15 #161 MacOS8: a jaundiced view mailing list softwar Netpresenz is serving up .html as text. Solutions? OS 8 Printing Word 5.1 selected pages The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. 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We'd also like to thank AOL, who has supplied the hardware the main info-mac machine runs on. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V15 #165" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:30:48 -0700 From: sdh@airmail.net Subject: [*] Cache Killer Pro 1.02 - the original Cache Killer and more!!! Cache Killer Pro is an AppleScript script which deletes the web browser caches for Netscape Navigator, Netscape Communicator, Cyberdog, America Online, Internet Explorer, or any other browser you use! Not only will Cache Killer Pro automatically detect and manage browser caches located in their default locations, but it can be configured to manage any folder on any volume! Cache Killer Pro can be setup to delete the disk caches periodically or every time it is run. Cache Killer Pro retains everything that made the original Cache Killer so popular and incorporates powerful new features to make your browser cache management easier than ever before! - automatically detect the individual cache folders created by Netscape Communicator - delete up to ten additional browser cache folders in any location on any volume - manage any folder you choose, not just browser cache folders - support for localized versions of the MacOS - improved user-interface to guide you through the setup process Cache Killer Pro requires AppleScript, which is included with System 7.5 or later. And, yes, Cache Killer Pro is fully compatible with MacOS 8! Cache Killer Pro was created by Scott Harralson. Further information on Cache Killer Pro can be found at http://web2.airmail.net/sdh/killerpro. Send any comments or bug reports to sdh@airmail.net. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/cache-killer-pro-102.hqx; 145K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:30:52 -0700 From: bbn@hem1.passagen.se Subject: [*] JPEGger 1.1 JPEGger is a utility for creating standalone JPEG pictures. Just drop a JPEG picture on JPEGger and the picture will become a standalone program that displays itself when started. A overhead of 16K is added to the picture, not even noticeable ;-) Useful for a lot of things! New in this version better management of memory, no more -108 error messages. Sincerely, Tommy Widenflycht [Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/jpeg-ger-11.hqx; 38K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:30:53 -0700 From: marc.honnorat@writeme.com Subject: [*] MadBreaker 1.1 MadBreaker is a new brickout game ! Knock all of the bricks out using the ball and the paddle. Don't let the ball go off of the bottom of the screen. When all of the bricks are gone, the level is completed and you move on to the next level. Every time you hit one brick, you get some points. In order that you get the most possible points, you have to complete all the levels you can ! With the help of MadEditor, create and play with your own levels ! System requirements: * System 7.0.1 * 2048 ko of RAM * 900 ko of hard drive space For more information, please visit our Web page: http://www.chez.com/chamane/ Thanks, Marc Honnorat Chamane eMedia http://www.chez.com/chamane/ [Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/mad-breaker-11.hqx; 526K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:30:51 -0700 From: mancino@decismkr.com Subject: [*] TattleTech 2.55 TattleTech is a System Profiler, Tech Support tool, and Bug Reporter application. It was formerly called TattleTale. 2.55 addresses the following issues: - Fixed all known compatibility problems with OS-8 - Fixed CPU ID and Speed reporting problems on Sys 7 and Sys 8 - Fixed reporting of L2 Cache on 603xx based machines on Sys 7 and Sys 8 - Fixed drive capacity reporting in ATA/IDE report for drives over 2GB on Sys 7 and Sys 8 - Other minor bug fixes TT reports over 850 informational items regarding your system and its hardware and peripherals including the following: PCI Cards, PC (PCMCIA) Cards, ATA/IDE Devices, Mult Processors/L2 Cache,PRAM, Gestalts,General HW attributes,Volumes/Drives,Monitors,Nubus/PDS Cards, ADB devices, SCSI devices,Traps,Applications,DAs,Fonts,INITs, and CDEVs. Also checks file integrity. Uses include learning about your Mac, pre-purchase feature verification, reporting problems to vendors/product support, beta testing, disk-based surveys, etc. Shareware: $15 and up. REQUIRES: Mac+ or > System 7.0 or > [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/tattletech-255.hqx; 557K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:10:51 GMT From: "michel.treisman" Subject: Printer problems Hi! I am running 7.5.5 on a 7300 which is connected to 3 printers, a Texas Instruments microlaser 600 locally, and a Laserwriter Pro and HP LaserJet 5M through the local net. As I seemed to get conflicts between the drivers when I loaded the HP and TI drivers, I use only Laserwriter 8.3.4 for all the printers. This seems to work fine on all three printers, with one exception. It will print italic on the microlaser 600, but italic comes out as plain text on both the Apple printer and the Hewlett Packard printer. What should I do to get italic to print on all three printers: any suggestions? Mike Michel Treisman Department of Experimental Psychology University of Oxford South Parks Road Oxford OX1 3UD England Tel. 01 865 271319 Fax 01 865 310447 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 97 15:51:20 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi Subject: Re: mailing list software >I'm interested in running a small (interest-based) mailing list and would >like to know if there is any software available specifically for Mac users. >I looked into list-serve software but it is only available for a variety of >other platforms. There are a couple of alternatives that I'm aware of: Michele Fourtes' macjordomo is free and very nice (I use it for some small lists). . StarNine (makers of WebSTAR) has a package called ListSTAR. To the best of my knowledge, ListSTAR is used to distribute Info-Mac! . tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil http://k-whiner.pica.army.mil/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:41:45 -0700 From: "David L. Hirschberg" Subject: (Q) Applevision 1710 & 5300cs problems I have a powerbook 5300cs/24/750 which I hook up to my 1710 monitor to do work at night or at least I did until a few days ago. I recently upgraded to system 8 and for a few days everything worked great. I would connect my Mac to the monitor start it up from the external key board and then change the resolution to 832X600 @ 75 Hz (or something like that) and work away. Last weekend I set up the external CD drive and turned it over to my kids. I set the monitor back to the lower res (600X480@67Hz) so they could see better. There was a little goofing around with the front buttons that change the color temperature but nothing that hasn't happened before. So when the kids were done I switched the resolution back to where I work and rebooted to disconnect the CD drive. The screen came up and just after the voice recognition icon loaded the screen went dark. Okay so this has happened before so I touch the monitor settings buttons to bring up the menu's-nothing happened. So after several nights of playing with it the only way I can get the monitor to come up is to reboot with the monitor disconnected, put the Mac to sleep, then plug the monitor in and wake it up. Then I can touch the left side monitor buttons move it to tools and change the temperature down to 7500. I have one choice of resolution and if I restart the Mac I lose the monitor and the only way I can get back the monitor is to reboot (Is there a way to put a Mac to sleep using a the keyboard?). Okay, so here is what I have done. 1. downloaded the new Applevision software (1.5.3) installed with extensions off. 2. Turned off all non system 8 extensions-screen still goes dark just before finder loads 3. Turned off as many system 8 extensions as I could. 4. Turned on video monitoring and booted with both monitors. Touching the monitor's buttons brings up the monitors control panel. Left buttons do nothing. Brightness and contrast buttons do bring up a scale but only on the powerbook monitor. Notice and AV monitor window behind the monitor's and sound control panel- brought it to the front. No color temperature option and no effect on it when using the monitor buttons. 5. Most have done something -now the 'hide cursor on this monitor' button is checked so I do not have a cursor on powerbook screen and I can not see it on the other screen. Only way around this is to reboot with the 1710 unplugged and then put it to sleep and then plug it in and wake up the Mac. 6. Tried zapping the pram 7. Tried throwing all the preference files that pertained to the monitor away (monitors and sound, Applevision, colorsync) 8. Called apple SOS. The put me on hold for about 40 minutes while they tried to find an answer and came back with nothing. I have a case number and they will try to have some answers for me tomorrow when I call. If anyone has any suggestions before I call them back I am all ears. I am sure there is something simple I am missing. I really thing that my monitor is working fine. I suspect that it is something with System 8 and the Applevision software but I do not want to have to go back to system 7.6.1 to test this. Thanks, David daneel@stanford.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:49:59 -0600 From: larscj@vip.cybercity.dk (Lars C. Jensen) Subject: (Q)danish characters 2 I forgot to include an example of my problems regarding the danish characters (sorry Andreas Prilop!). Here=B4s one > Jeg skal lige have testet, om mit nye mail/news-program virker. S=3DE5 du > f=3DE5r lige et brev - s=3DE5 kan du ogs=3DE5 lige tjekke om mine =3DF8-e= r (oe-er) =3D > og > =3DE5-er (aa-er) g=3DE5r igennem. (in danish) I also forgot to tell what kind of app. I use: MacSoup/Eudora Light/OS 7.1. =20 YS Lars=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:14:59 +0200 From: Sam Subject: [Q] Open transport & FreePPP I have a Performa 6300 with system 7.5.5 and I use FreePPP 2.5v2. I've installed Open Transport 1.1.2 but, if I try to connect with FreePPP, this alert appear: "FreePPP can not be used right now because it is not selected in the TCP/IP control panel." Naturally FreePPP IS selected in the TCP/IP control panel. I have the same problem using OT/PPP instead of FreePPP. Can someone suggest a solution? Thx in advance Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 01:07:32 -0400 From: "Michael D. Arkin" Subject: [Q]: Eudora Light 3.11 filters: how to transfer files to Trash? I successfully use Eudora Light 3.11 filters to transfer mail to various mailboxes, using header information such as , but I have been unable to transfer mail based on subjects which start with a specified character string. For example: I subscribe to the EvangeList, and want to transfer all messages whose subjects start with "!!" (the EvangeList code for "action required") or with "Job" (the code for "employment opportunity") to a specific mailbox. [Actually, I'd like to transfer them to the Trash, but I'll settle for a specific mailbox. Once there, I can delete these messages with "Select All." :-) ] I have created a filter with Incoming and Manual messages whose and without success. If you have a suggestion, please reply to me privately at and I will summarize all replies to the list. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:56:11 -0700 From: "Tamas, Peter BGI SF" Subject: CD-ROM I am interested in buying some CDs with historical documents (US Civil War) reproduced on them. These are advertised as being for Windows/DOS. Can I use them with my Quadra 650 or do I need to get a DOS emulator? Also, how do I get the addresses of Internet lists. I do not have access to usenet. Thanks, Pete Tamas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:56:53 +0100 (BST) From: Lloyd Wood Subject: comment Re: submissions (K schemes) "Brian Wessels" writes > Yes, Kaleidoscope has moved from interesting to overkill. [..] > Folks, don't expect to make your fortune designing a color scheme and > demanding bucks for it. We've got at least 1000 alternatives to yours > by now, and we can always design our own. for design hints and tips, web pages of designers, etc. I'd suggest putting a shorter expiry on the kaleidoscope schemes directory - delete all schemes older than three months, say. Anything uploaded to the gui/ks directory before mid-March '97 is incompatible with the Kaleidoscope 1.5 format used by the current Kaleidoscope 1.7.1, and can be safely removed. L. PGP+44-1483-300800x3641 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:07:53 -0700 From: Julius Friede Subject: Control Strip and Pop up windows Any enterprising souls out there care to write something to allow the placement of the control strip? It gets in the way of pop up windows of OS8. While I'm putting requests out there, how about a "View As List" with the icons as small buttons? Just a thought. Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:11:29 -0300 From: Alain Chabot Subject: GIFs and JPEGs not visible in Netscape Hi, I have built a fairly large project in html. It contains both jpeg and gif files. When I send the html files and the images as file attachments in Eudora emails all works well at the other end: the recipient can display pages normally, in Netscape or IE, on a mac or a pc or whatever else. I have also uploaded the entire project with Anarchie to other people's accounts and that too worked hunky dory. But... As the number of files keeps growing (over 450 so far), I thougth of putting everything in one (or a few) large files and place them on a ftp server for people to access and download. So I ziped everything together with Zipit. And now when a non-Mac recipient opens the files, the html is displayed correctly, but the images are illegible. One guy has found out that there is some "garbage" in each file, probably some mac-specific stuff. He can repair the files by opening them in Paint Shop Pro, and saving it without making any change. But this means making this over 400 times. :( I have tried to move my files to a dos floppy and zipping them from there. No luck. Is there anything I can do to make sure the extraneous info is removed? Alain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 97 23:24:02 -0400 From: Jody Schraden Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #161 Neil, I also could not boot from the OS8 CD. I had to boot from the floppy disk that came with OS8, and then run the installer on the CD. I was very pleased with the installation process and all the internet extras that are now part of OS8. So far my system is running very smoothly. Setting up an internet account was easy too. Good luck, Jody Schraden > I thought I would boot up fropm the OS8 CD and take a look at the >interface of the system before installing it and discovered that it would >not boot on my 7100 av 80 Mac at all but instead crashed resoundingly with >a bomb and a message to boot with extensions off due to bus error ( type >11.)...I contacted Apple and got two differing opinions on what to do to >get through this . One suggested that I make certain that appletalk is >on so I tried that to no avail and the second which was to boot only from >the disk tools 2 disk that came with the cdrom and then install the OS >after using the disk tools emergency startup folder...very odd, very odd >and rather a disappointment. Essentially, one cannot use the CDROM as a >startup disk at all for this machine and perhaps many others. They also >remarked after I questioned them that this is common with the OS8. Has >anyone had similar experiences? I have not yet installed the software but >wonder if I have any other surprises in this regard ahead of me. Is this a >similar problem with PCI bus computers? Am I just an unlucky camper having >been eaten by a rabid bear... er..OS or is this just one of those things? >Please Email me with observations if you can...thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:50:13 -0600 From: Graeme Forbes Subject: MacOS8: a jaundiced view My own reaction to OS8 is less positive than Brett's. Running on a 604e/200 PowerTower Pro I don't find the new Finder any snappier than 7.6.1's and since I rarely want to do lots of different things in the Finder simultaneously, multi-threading is lost on me (tho' I agree that it's great for those who can use it). I found System 7.6.1 extremely stable. OS8 is about the same in my experience so far. The big drawback is the number of control panels and extensions which break. The three single biggest productivity boosters in my 7.6.1 set-up are PopUpFolder, Super Boomerang, and Double-Scroll. All three are gone under OS8. Ed Voas tells me he's working on an OS8-compatible Double-Scroll, and I'll be glad to see it released. Now Utilities has posted a message on its website advising against installing NU under OS8 and indicates that it may not bother updating the utilities - they say they're working on group scheduling software and when they're done with that they'll think about it. The loss of PopUpFolder is a disaster, as far as I'm concerned. Rather than just buy the utility from the Belgian company Inline sold it to, Apple has created its own "spring-loaded" folders. They are better than nothing, but as a Finder navigation enhancement they have only a small part of PUF's functionality, and the actual mechanics of digging thro folders is much more awkward and clumsy than in PUF. The Belgian company is currently evaluating the possibility of upgrading PUF. If you want them to, contact the American distributors, http://www2.asdsoft.com/asdsoft/, and you'll get a message that contains the Belgian address you can write to. Sorry, I discarded my copy after writing to request an upgrade. Another minor irritation is that the Resedit fmnu templates that worked for System 7 don't work in 8. Jonathan Jacobs has posted his "8.0 mods" which among other things restores command-t for emptying the trash, but it's not the same as having editable menus. Why does Apple force us to jump thro' these stupid hoops when it would be trivial to allow users to customize their keyboard shortcuts? To me the most amazing things about the OS8 interface are (i) users of large monitors still don't get *built-in* double-arrows for scrolling. So we have to do ten times as much mousing as should be required,while waiting for Ed to rescue us. This is an elementary point about the user interface that you don't need 15 years to absorb. And (ii) OS8 got out the door with the truly horrible Charcoal as the default system font. Makes me wonder if anyone is in charge. You can switch back to Chicago but it's just screamingly obvious that espi should have been the default. It isn't even an option! Fortunately, Evert-Jan Nijhof (e.j.nijhof@fys.ruu.nl) has posted a Resedit fix. The multi-threaded Finder and whatever bug fixes there are apart, OS8 is mainly attractive for its cosmetic aspects and its implementation of some interface enhancements which try to catch up with what commercial, shareware and freeware authors already provided. System 7.6.1 with the Aaron look and running those commercial, shareware and freeware products is, in my opinion, superior. I installed OS8 on an empty partition I keep for experimenting with new software I don't want to overwrite old versions with. That makes it very easy to go back to 7.6.1, which I will happily do. Graeme Forbes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 10:44:06 -0500 From: Bryan.Walls@msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Walls) Subject: mailing list softwar > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 00:27:46 +0900 >From: Tito Poza and Shari Custer-Poza >Subject: mailing list software > >I'm interested in running a small (interest-based) mailing list and would >like to know if there is any software available specifically for Mac users. >I looked into list-serve software but it is only available for a variety of >other platforms. > Check out Macjordomo . It is a freeware program designed specifically for the mac to provide listserv-style service. It is not a port of listserv or majordomo, and claims to be easy to set-up and us. It's also free. I haven't used it -- I have access to majordomo on unix. -- Bryan Walls My Words are not NASA Policy EB12 MSFC, AL 35812 Bryan.Walls@msfc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:54:26 -0400 From: "Michael G. Schabert" Subject: Netpresenz is serving up .html as text. Solutions? >I recently downloaded and installed Netpresenz after learning >from a telephone repairman who came to fix a bad splice that my phone line >was in fact able to handle 64 kb transmission. I thought I'd give a whirl >the possibility of being on line live so to speak from my home. Being >used to an impersonal unix box at work where all the administration is >done by someone else, and with layers of routers between my office and the >world, I was excited by the prospect of broadcasting from home, as well as >being able to do exciting things which my ISP might not allow. > >So, with a PowerMac, system 7.5.5, FreePPP, I turned on appletalk, >thereby disconnecting my Color Stylewriter Pro printer (according to the >Netpresenz instructions this is what I had to do. Can one get aropund >this?) dialed up my ISP, read the assigned ip address in the TCP/IP >window, fired up Netpresenz, configured it for WWW and ftp. I then opened >a browser window and made an http: connection to my ip address. Lo and >behold, I was served up the index file in the correct folder, but as a >text file, rather than marked up as it should have displayed. When I >tried ftp all was fine. OK, first, you can get an extension from Apple called "Remote Only". This allows you to turn on AppleTalk in a mode that doesn't affect your serial ports. You put this in your extensions folder, then in the Network (under classic) or the AppleTalk (under OT) control panel, select Remote only instead of your printer port. >The only thing I did not do, which was part of the instruction set, was to >configure Internet Config, the reason being I have several dial-up >accounts. I can't believe that was a necessary step. It's a necessary step in a whole lot of Internet applications. I have at least 6 apps that won't run without IC & about 7 more that recommend it & package it with the installer. There are utilities that make it easy to set up and switch between many different sets of preferences in Internet Config. >Has anyone else had this problem? Could someone tell me perhaps what I >did wrong and why the html documents were being served up in their source, >and what I need to do? Yes, it's because of Internet Config. The purpose for using it is so that it knows what kind of documents it is serving. IC tells NetPresenz what .html and the other file extensions mean. This is necessary instead of scanning for HTML tags because if you did that, then you'd have a hard time putting a page on the web that shows HTML tags (because they'd be USED instead of SHOWN) I hope this Bikers don't *DO* taglines. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:44:32 +0100 From: i.burt@netmatters.co.uk (Ian Burt) Subject: OS 8 Hi newbie MicroSerfs :-( First I heard that OS 8 needs 12 Mb machine ram to install, then that virtual memory has been improved so much on OS 8 that it will run up to 20 Mb with no trouble. The truth is out there, anybody like to share it with me? We don't even have OS 8 in the UK yet, but I would like to be ready for it. Or maybe I should buy a PC, not. Keep the faith kids, Ian Burt But you who walk facing the sun,what images drawn on the earth can hold you? mailto:i.burt@netmatters.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:36:43 -0700 From: Herb Kroemer Subject: Printing Word 5.1 selected pages I am one of those people insisting on continuing to use version 5.1 of MS Word. In documents containing several sections, each with its own page numbers, I used to be able to print selected pages from selected sections, say, page 2 and 3 from Section 4. Since switching printer software to LaserWriter 8.4, I can no longer make such a selection. I can still select an entire section for printing, but I can no longer select a specified range of pages from a specified section, unless I tediously add up the pages in all the preceding sections, and use the General print option at least I THINK that would work). I finally switched back to LaserWriter 8.2 (without DeskTop Printing), but I am wondering whether or not I overlooked an option hidden somewhere. (Don't bother advising me to downgrade to Word 6 -- I won't). Herb K -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************